Double Bass Drum Technique?

[DoubleBassBob]

I love a double bass setup mainly for the speed metal style I play. Just wondering if there are any other double bassers out there and what types of approaches you guys use? Do you think double bass can be applied in anything besides just metal and really fast eserteric style death metal, I find it hard to apply the double bass to other styles and genres of music-

-Bob The reigning King of Metal Drumming. (as voted by the 2003 drum off association of the pacific northwest!)

Cannibal corpse rules!

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ November 07, 2003 09:58 PM: Message edited by: Bob King Of Metal Drumming ]</font>

[peter c]

Bob,

After many years of single-
kicking, I picked it up a
few months ago. I have to
admit that it was after I
saw Virgil play them that
I decided on it.

I was heel-down for MANY
years and proficient at
the one-kick. It presents
a challenge to go to two,
as my HH foot was not use
to this new role but I have
come to a place with it now,
while playing heel-up, that
is satisfactory.

I had been working on
doubles mostly, just until
recently, as they've come
along pretty well.

I'm using a pair of Elim-
inator pedals, which are
the best pedal, for the
money, I believe.

I just started sticking it
into my tunes. Here's one
that has it but it's a
little different than what
you're used to, I think.

It's later in the tune,
during the solos.

www.thediametrixletter.com/hacerato4.mp3

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<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ November 07, 2003 10:22 PM: Message edited by: peter c ]</font>

[Steve Holmes]

DB is very challenging for me, I spend time working on 16th note trips and 32nd notes at slow-medium tampos.
It's hard to know when it fits musically outside metal. I think for a jazz/fusion type situation I find it more usufull in fills, or instered once during a groove. Definitely not a groove consisting of DB throughout. Then it gets noisy, theres no room for anything else really.
A good DB fill can really elevate the tune or solo to the "next level".

The thing that helped me the most from getting intimidated of faster subdivisions is telling myself that each leg is only doig HALF. 16th note triplets = each leg doing 8th note triplets. 32nd notes = each leg doing 16ths. This makes it a bit more accessible for me. Sometimes I lead with my right foot. On 16th note triplets I make sure my right is doing 8th note trips on the downbeat and my left can often follow along filling in their part.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ November 07, 2003 11:09 PM: Message edited by: Steve Holmes ]</font>

[DoubleBassBob]

I prefer the Iron Cobras although sometimes prown to breaking the beater arm off frequently they seem to have a really nice fast action that I like.

[peter c]

That's cool. I have one
as well. If you're happy
with it, that's what mat-
ters. What is it about
double-kicking that you
feel you need to improve
on? Let me know. I'm a
work in progress myself.

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[DoubleBassBob]

I definately need to Improve on evrything, not just double bass playing, you never can stop learning and with an honest practice effort and good work ethic, I have found that improvement and personel satisfaction can be achieved.

"ohh my I think I'm going to cry"

[DoubleBassBob]

I find It most usefull in solos.

[DoubleBassBob]

Also I forgot to add another good thing to do is: RR, LL at 233! Try that for awhile.

-Bob King of Metal Drumming!

Long Live Maiden!!!!!!!!

WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

[buga]

I mainly go through the exercises(rudiments)in Bailey's "Drum Bass Control" very helpfull stuff which was slightly explaiend by Steve.

Something more basic would be Joe Franco's book(the red/black one)

Just treat your feet like u would practice with your hands, first trying to develop or balance your weaker foot(left foot), I always tend to lead with that foot and play 16 bar exercises going through quarter notes, 8th's, 8th note triplets, 16th notes yada yada.

Doing paradiddles with the feet also helps [img]wink.gif[/img]

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ November 08, 2003 11:55 AM: Message edited by: Bozzio ]</font>

[peter c]

Well, there's a lot of
ideas on this board. You
will like it a lot.

For your music, you should
also make sure and visit

www.virgildonati.com

Get on the message board.
You won't be sorry. Lots
of metal to be mined for you.

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<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ November 08, 2003 12:03 AM: Message edited by: peter c ]</font>